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29 July 2007 @ 01:58 pm
Fave exchanges  
Some of my favourite dialogue has already been mentioned, but there's an abundance of examples I enjoy.

McKay and Mrs Miller

Final scene in which the team reassures Rodney they love him more than Rod. Team love! I also love (my interpretation, anyway!) that John seems to have set-up the let's-make-Rodney-feel-better incident, going by John's sotto voce comment we can just barely hear ("Here he comes"). This excerpt is the high point of the exchange, but I love the whole scene.

RODNEY: Ah, he wasn't that bad.

JOHN: Let's be honest: Rod was annoying.

RODNEY: [glowing smile] Well, I'll be honest with you: That's, uh, kind of nice to hear.

As he turns away to pull up a chair to join them, the other three exchange smirks of success, then the three guys set about teasing Teyla and I'm in my team happy place.


The "You shot me!" scene at the end is another one I rewind endlessly. Rodney's disbelief is plain in his voice, and I have immense love for the bit where John grips his radio and grits his teeth at another iteration of the constant refrain, hee--and Rodney's not being likely to give it up any time soon is borne out when he brings it up again at the very end after John and Teyla's private exchange! Ronon's amusement at John's discomfort is icing on the cake as Ronon grins in the background and throws his own bit into the cause of driving John insane.

RODNEY: You shot me!

JOHN: Yes, Rodney, I shot you and I said I was sorry.

RONON: You shot me, too.

JOHN: I'm sorry for shooting everyone!

Thing is, this scene always makes me laugh, but it's a coda to a horrifying incident that, as John says, has creeped them all out and could potentially have been deadly--John could have killed Rodney or Ronon. It's not only a surface laugh here; John's frustration is undershot with tension. His insistence they're all going to be okay (as he says to Elizabeth) reads to me as his determination to make things be all right, which means particularly with Rodney. I see Ronon's amused throw into the pot as his affirmation everything's square between himself and John; they're even, in a way, anyhow, since Ronon was also shooting at John. But John is going to have to mend fences with Rodney, who will, naturally, make it all as difficult as possible for a while! I love the times when SG produces layered scenes like these that are funny, yet also convey serious emotion.

The Game

When John introduces Rodney to Baden, Rodney's response cracks me up. The emphasis they both put on specifying Baden is John's amuses me:

RODNEY: Oh. Your guy.

JOHN: My guy.

Rodney looks Baden up and down, probably noting the V-necked leather vest with studs in a heart shape on it!

RODNEY: Yeah, figures.

Which suggests a whole lot about Rodney's knowledge of how John likes to spend hours and hours of gaming time. While Rodney was designing a Carter-clone and dressing her and doing her hair--which is hysterical enough!--John was playing with...Baden.

I know how I enjoy interpreting John's leisure time proclivities. *g*

leopold the see-through fic reader: johnmibloodapproves on July 29th, 2007 09:16 pm (UTC)
Re: The Game...and they seriously expect anyone to believe that John is straight? Riiiiiight.
nellhowell on July 29th, 2007 11:45 pm (UTC)
Oh, yeah! I sincerely hope TPTB continue to believe their message is getting through exactly as they intend and don't change what they're doing in the least. Their formula has worked a treat for me the last three years. :)
Anonymity as a Refugemirabile_dictu on July 29th, 2007 10:07 pm (UTC)
These are great! You made me laugh right out loud -- I can only hope I don't sound like John!
nellhowell on July 29th, 2007 11:55 pm (UTC)
The thing that gets me about John's laugh--other than the obvious, of course!--is that it was two-and-a-half years before we heard it for the first time. That's just kind of appalling to think about. Poor John! And yay for S3 and all the times he gets to relax with his team.
thegrrrl: John and Rodney grinningthegrrrl2002 on July 29th, 2007 10:08 pm (UTC)
Aw, you picked such happy beautiful fun moments! I especially like your take on "Phantoms"--I love the tension JF puts into that final scene, you can tell he's shaken up and wants to make everything all right just by sheer force of will. But then there's Rodney and his adorable whine of disbelief. Which John cannot ignore.

I also loved John's "go to sleep, Rodney". I like to think he says that a lot. Especially at night, you know, when Rodney wants to talk about his feelings and John wants to do anything but.
nellhowell on July 30th, 2007 12:58 am (UTC)
S3 has so many lovely, fun moments that it's harder to pick a mere three than point to a dozen. So many riches!

I also loved John's "go to sleep, Rodney".

Ah, yeah, love that moment, too. Especially adore Rodney's weary but determined "whine of disbelief", as you aptly put it, and John's mix of frustration and amusement and worry and tiredness, along with the sense of his knowing Rodney's unlikley to give up any time soon!

It's fun to draw a parallel between the end of Trinity and end of Phantoms, with each having to work to get back the other's trust and forgiveness--only with a lot of new water under the bridge and so a changed dynamic. But, still, fun parallel to think about.
thegrrrlthegrrrl2002 on July 30th, 2007 04:29 pm (UTC)
I totally agree. Although I like to think that Rodney milked that injury for all it's worth. *g*
eveningblue: SGA Friendseveningblue on July 30th, 2007 12:34 am (UTC)
Oh, I love love love that moment at the end of "McKay and Mrs. Miller." I love the way that feeling of left-outedness flickers across Rodney's face for a split second, and then the way the team has obviously conspired to make him feel better.

And John's/Joe's laugh is a wondrous thing! If you want to hear more of it listen to the dvd commentary on "Conversion" and "Lost Boys" in season 2. It is completely charming and goofy.
nellhowell on July 30th, 2007 01:04 am (UTC)
Rodney's delight in having his place affirmed in the team is awesome! And the way the others show they're sensitive to how he's been feeling with Rod around and the emotional up-and-down reunion with his sister all at once makes me utterly happy. The team looking out for each other doesn't just mean with P-90's offworld!

Thanks for the tip about the commentaries. I never watch them, but I'll keep that in mind!
eveningblue: SGA Friendseveningblue on July 30th, 2007 02:01 am (UTC)
And the way the others show they're sensitive to how he's been feeling with Rod around and the emotional up-and-down reunion with his sister all at once makes me utterly happy.

Oh, and another cool moment is when John shows Jeannie the video he made during "Letters from Pegasus." (Though I'm not really clear on why she never saw that before.) I hope Rodney realizes how lucky he is, to have such good friends who overlook his flaws!

The dvd commentaries, for the most part, suck. It's all the directors and writers saying, "Oh, and look how we made this hallway look twice as long as it actually is!"

But I was pointed toward "Conversion" and "Lost Boys" because they feature both Flanigan and Hewlett and they are a lot of fun!

Don't waste your time with the rest, though.
nellhowell on July 30th, 2007 03:30 am (UTC)
Oh, and another cool moment is when John shows Jeannie the video he made during "Letters from Pegasus."

Another of the many scenes in this episode I adore. John's having that message on his machine all this time after it was written is remarkable, and a heck of a lot of fun!
downloadableindifference: sga straightestdownloadable08 on July 30th, 2007 04:57 am (UTC)
It's always amused me that every effort by TPTB to make Sheppard seem straight only serve to make him look more gay.

-"What if he doesn't like to be touched? Will that work?" (cue fan montage of every casual touch between McKay and Sheppard; montage exceeds ten minutes)

-"How about me make him really impressed with the new guy's fighting techniques? That's macho, right?" (see icon)

-"Let's have the nubile young princess jump him!" (which gives us the most hilariously 'WTFgirlparts?!' face ever in the history of time--thanks, Joe)

-"John Sheppard makes the manliest armor around!" (Fans: "With the exceptions of the heart design and the fact that it would look more natural on a very specialized porn set...")
nellhowell on July 30th, 2007 03:49 pm (UTC)
Lol, the look on John's face is priceless!

You've hit many of the high points of their clever plan to demonstrate their hero's absolute, unquestionable straightness. Between the writers, the directors, and the actors, they've managed to practically remove the "sub" from "subtext" and I find it insanely amusing. :g:

Hmm, and we could add their idea to trap him in a time dilation field for six months and only have him succumb to the beautiful woman at the very last moment because that's.... Okay, well, that is kind of weird for a straight man, but it works because he feels abandoned! He's got issues! With his feelings!

Or how about have him fall for a gorgeous Ancient masquerading as a priestess, take her on a romantic picnic--and proceed to talk about Rodney? Err.

And cockblocking his buddy is always a surefire way to establish a guy's hetness, right? Homosocial bonding ftw! Heh. I really do hope they have lots more similar ploys up their sleeves!